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Sony Rigs Oscars Says Michael Moore



Sony Rigs Oscars Says Michael Moore

March 24, 2003

Michael Moore's Oscars Speech. Twice uses fictitious word - "Fictition"

Michael Moore GOES GUNNING For SONY.

Anti-gun "Bowling for Coumbine" will be passed up for an Oscar, says Moore, because Sony has rigged the voting.

According to this article (http://www.pagesix.com/seven/03182003/pagesix/pagesix.htm), Sony has actually prevented the Oscar voters from viewing its own film. But Why?

The theory goes: Because only those who have seen all the documentaries nominated can vote. And so Sony only shows its own documentary to those voters it knows will vote for it.

Pretty clever. Sounds an awful lot like another trick in the music business: not making all of your own artists available for distribution, because you only want the audience to hear certain of your artists, so you can control the market.

A pattern of anti-trust behavior.

- by Aimee Deep at 08:11 AM with 87 comments


Comments
The link to Moore's speach is broken. The leading h is missing. Should be: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/24/1048354528177.html Posted by: Ron, http://www.reactuate.com/ on March 24, 2003 12:15 PM



I'm not finding any use of "fictition"; nor did I hear any last night. (Came across your blog while searching for the URL to the smh article... thanks!) Posted by: Claudia, on March 24, 2003 01:26 PM



Whoops, I see. The full speech is quoted below the story. Sorry. Posted by: Claudia, on March 24, 2003 01:28 PM



Moore is an ass....sorry I had to say it! That speech last night was deplorable....I am so sick of hollywood using thier position as a platform to speak about things they do not understand! Everyone Anti-war is actually Pro-Saddam and last time I checked he was a mad man who killed his own people and family members. When was flag burning considered "American" ? Has everyone gone mad? Protests have turned into smash and grabs - in Philly, young people turned a "Peace March" into a riot in which a 7-11 was ransacked. Where was the "peace" in that protest? I'm so frustrated and disappointed right now.... IR Posted by: IndependentRep, on March 24, 2003 01:43 PM



Who is an ass IR? Assuming that most Hollywood people dont know what their talking about is a common thing, but Michael Moore is not the normal Hollywood person. I would not be shocked if he knew more of what is really going on then what your mindset will ever allow you to believe. Posted by: JoeZor, on March 24, 2003 03:08 PM



While I sympathize with IR's feelings on how the anti-war protestors conducted themselves in Philly, I do not believe Michael Moore was completely off-base when he spoke about ficticious elections. First of all, did we ever investigate why Bush chose to invade Iraq? (aside from the obvious claims that Saddam failed to 'dissarm' his weapons of mass destruction). It was released later on the news that Saddam may not have ever had these 'weapons of mass destruction'. And, what ever happened to Bin Laden? How can a man who releases videos every month not be found yet? While the 9/11 crisis will always remain a huge devastation to americans everywhere, where was Saddam when all this occured, why is he the current target of U.S. suspicion? Is it simply the 'failure to dissarm' issue, or is there some connection between the two events. I am in full support of anti-war protests, as I have partook in a few, and every time I protested the events were held in a calm and orderly fashion. However, it was disgusting to hear that police brutality was used in other instances all over the world, of course I will not repeat what I've heard because it is negative propoganda that I will not begin to support. I'm sure many people think anti-war protests are pointless in trying to stop the war, BUT, many of us who are protesting all over the world do not intend to stop the war, we do it because it helps prove to Bush that not everyone supports his decisions. If we stood idly by and said nothing, Bush would think that everyone agreed with what he's chosen to do. This statement by no means suggests that I'm pro-Saddam, I do not agree with the way he's chosen to run his country, and the things he's done in the past. I simply want to convey what I know can be useful to the public, and can go up for much debate. Thank you Posted by: Anonymous, on March 24, 2003 04:08 PM



I'm not sure what the big deal was. He is correct when he says, "fictitious results" with regard to the election. Everyone know that Florida manipulated the voting process in order that it reflect Dubbya as the winner. As far as the rest of his speach, well, it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. To take the position of, "how dare he!" Well, that's pretty ignorant. He chose his alloted time to vocalize his opinion, I see nothing wrong with that. IndependentRep, you stated that anyone Anti-war is Pro-Sadam? Cut the crap, if you had your only child shipped out to war and a few days later get told that s/he was killed, well, how pro-war would you feel then? Posted by: JT, on March 24, 2003 04:08 PM



Michael Moore said it was rigged eh? Well it looks like it's not since he won. I like Michael Moore and I agree with things he has done in the past, but his speech at the oscars made him look like an idiot. It was not the time and place for a "political" speech. Get you award, thank people, then get your fat ass off the stage next time. Posted by: CE, on March 24, 2003 04:29 PM



"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."- Thomas Jefferson Michael Moore is a true patriot. Remember, being against war does not make you for Saddam. It seems as though we have a madman as the head of our country as well. Posted by: george alper, on March 24, 2003 05:07 PM



Michael Moore is an asshat. He knew that his speech was going to broadcast to millions of people he knew he'd never have access to, so he probably duped the other documentary producers to come up there and stand with him. He actions are deplorable. He's made millions complaining about the plight of others, yet has never made a real effort to get a real job himself. Also, the fictitious president comment is BS. The only people who didn't like how the election turned out are democrats or people from New England, California, Washington, or Oregon. You people don't think the rest of the country has a voice, and when we finally win an election for our man, you say it's rigged. Boohoo. They did recount after recount even after the Supreme Court ruling and it was still the same. Close, yes, but Bush still won. Get over it, he's the real President. If you're not with us, you are against us. You can say you support the troops but not the President, but that's BS just the same. They took an oath to serve our country at the will of the President, and it is not for you to question their responsibility. This crap has gone on for too long. One million Iraqi children have died because of the sanctions that even Clinton supported. It needs to end now. War is the only way now and it's how this mess is going to end. Posted by: JC, on March 24, 2003 05:26 PM



However much Moore dislikes Bush (join the club, fatboy), the ludicrous statement that Bush is an unelected president has taken on the status of gospel to millions of people and is starting to become dangerous. Bush's election in 2000 wasn't an abuse of democracy; in fact, it was a tribute to the strength of democracy that both sides submitted the matter to the Supreme Court and honoured that institution's decision. Just because a lot of us wanted Gore to win doesn't make Bush's narrow victory a theft...or would Gore's election have been equally "fictitious"? Calling Bush a "fictitious" president, despite the fact that literally hundreds of recounts all returned the same verdict, degrades the democratic process. When Gore lost, he did the supremely honourable thing: he bowed out, conceded, and stated that Bush was the winner. In contrast, Moore's bleating up on that stage was a farce, and an ugly one at that; surrounding himself with a gigantic entourage, declaring "shame" at the President of the United States, you could tell he was convinced that Michael Moore is just the biggest fucking hero in America today. I mean, criticize the war, criticize Bush, but for Christ's sake, why is your baseless propaganda any better than their baseless propaganda, chubby? Posted by: Jon, on March 24, 2003 05:57 PM



Obviously, Moore isn't the only one who is fictitious. JT, who wrote "I'm not sure what the big deal was. He is correct when he says, "fictitious results" with regard to the election. Everyone know that Florida manipulated the voting process in order that it reflect Dubbya as the winner," must be a fictitious, as well. No one actually, living, could possibly be able to refute the hard core evidence (actual video, eye-witness accounts, etc.), not to mention recounts after the election, proving that Bush won, legitimately, legally, and morally. Posted by: , on March 24, 2003 07:57 PM



Well Mr. CE.... did it ever occur to you they gave him the oscar to make him look stupid / prove him wrong? It is quite possible he is paranoid... but it seems that his assumption that the right wing gun toting nutters wouldnt see his was incorrect. Thx Bye tommo Posted by: tommo, on March 24, 2003 07:58 PM



Michael Moore is one of the bravest persons in this country. Bush has taken his ineptitude at international politics and made it seem that not supporting him is like saying one doesn't give a damn about the people fighting his war. Its his war, he sent people to fight, kill and die, and he's trying to pass the blame onto dissenters by calling them callous. There is only one child of a congressmen in the armed services. Perhaps if it were they're children fighting, peace would be given a chance. Posted by: malabarista, on March 24, 2003 10:09 PM



Hey I give credit to Moore for speaking out. I mean geez not everyone is going to agree with him and everyone isnt going to agree with bush. Hell everyone is not going to agree with everything! We did kinda do a fictitious election cause gore won the majority of votes, check it out on the link below. And I'm pretty sure thats what he was talking about. He knows better than anyone how messed up this world is and how politicians can lie in order to persuade, he knows dropping bombs on a country in the middle of the desert may not be the right answer, cause he's done his homework. I personally believe that the world wasnt wanting to help out that country because no one really wanted to be the first one to do it. But who knows, my point is that I think if someone is going to invade another country and kill to make up for their debt of a certain 8 year war with another country ought to see what its like to be a normal person again. But yeah, Moore said what he believes in, and that should be respected and debated, not booed and offensing. Posted by: Phil, on March 24, 2003 10:56 PM



I think that ol' moore is one of the few yanks with the balls to stand up and the socal height to be noticed. I was shocked by bowling for columbine, appalled when i read about the unpunished electoral fraud undertaken by george bush. How any red blooded american can hold them selfs back from grabbing one of their numerous firearms, marching to the whitehouse and tar and feathering that crazed little idiot is beyond me. I applauded mike for standing up in the hollywood holy of holys , the oscars and instead of licking Weinsteins ass or trying to line up a three movie deal, he had the cohonnas to stick the knife into George W in front of the entire english speaking world. Go mike, with more yanks like you , may be you do have a chance at sorting out your increasingly violent and deranged country. Posted by: aussie goose, on March 24, 2003 10:59 PM



Michael {Fonda} Moore. Is there a jackass award for the likes of him? Posted by: Peter Young, on March 24, 2003 11:06 PM



Michael Moore is not the problem. By no means is he responsible for this war, nor is he capable of stopping it. The problem lies more in the wave of ignorance which sweeps the country everytime there is a debate on right and wrong. Just stop and look at how many of you started a legitimate arguement, ["I disagree with Michael Moore because..."] something you could be proud of, something you could build on, and ruined your one and only chance at making an intelligent point and being listened to, by noting that he is a fat man. Over and over again. It's all right to be mad, it's all right to be American (provided there are no more than three of you together in one room) if you stick to legitimate arguments, it's even all right to try and justify Bush's war in Iraq. Just make your point without demonstrating that you are the idiot that makes Moore tick. Make it so that when he does his next "popular" documentary on American 'isms', you might be left out of it... Wouldn't that be cool? Wouldn't that be something? Then you too could laugh along and poke fun at, say... fat people, or, the disabled, or those whose rhetorical skills are woefully inadequate to the task of "making a point." (And let's hope you can stay out of the 'fag bashing' expose.) Well, good luck Americans. Care, but not to death, okay? Good! Posted by: Miekol, on March 25, 2003 12:58 AM



It was funny, those that booed at the oscars are probably the same people who'll be making 'Courage Under Fire II' in a few months time, and once again Hollywood will be helping to re-write history and perpetuate the myth of the US's benevolent imperialism. Michael Moore has done the only thing his conscious would allow him to do. It's also funny that they gave a standing ovation to a paedophile and booed Michael Moore - that's Hollywood for you! Posted by: , on March 25, 2003 01:26 AM



As an independent, I was willing to vote for McCain. I wasn't exactly for Gore. But there's no way you can convince me that Bush's ascendency to the presidency was legitimate. Between the African-Americans getting booted off the registration rosters by Jeb and the Butterfly Ballots by Gore's own people, not to mention the illegal registration-altering by the Republicans AND the counting of overseas ballots sent in after the cut-off date, Gore got screwed out of what he deserved. And the Supreme Court capitulated. It wasn't a supreme triumph of democracy. It was an example of the concept that sometimes demanding what's right brings too much hardship to make it worth the request. Gore could have demanded more but it would've done irreparable harm to the country. That's the only reason he bowed out. Moore has every right to accuse Bush of being a fictitious president. Conversely, the audience had every right to boo (or cheer) him. Posted by: R Turner, on March 25, 2003 01:53 AM



you should be thanking michael moore for uphomding your constitution.seems to me that "free speech" is only acceptable when you agree them.like it or not,at least respect the dignity of the constitution you fight so hard to hold and end the hypocrisy.and fat jokes,i mean really!half the countrys overweight. Posted by: tpi, on March 25, 2003 03:35 AM



if you are not with us you are against us?? sounds like a totalitarian state to me....its fine with me if you like to live in a state like that but don't push it on the rest of the world..thank you !...god..some war mongering fools posting it up in here tonight eh... Posted by: , on March 25, 2003 04:29 AM



The problem with this country is education...Most of you are arguing about stuff that has already been proven......Bush is not the elected president of the USA....The vote in the Supreme Court was a Partisan Vote... There were over 90,000 black votes blocked in Florida by a loose program that stopped people who had any type of relationship(ie a name that resembled a felon) from voting.....This story was broken by the BBC..It is now fact and has been for a while Let's all stop arguing about most of this stuff.....WE definitly can't all agree on this war.. But on the subject of Bush being an idiot, who has screwed up everything, we should all be in agreement. Posted by: riley, on March 25, 2003 07:55 AM



I'm from the UK and we got snippets of the Oscars including edited highlights from Michael Moore's outburst. I wanted to know more (no pun intended) so I did a web search, got this site and the full text to his speech. I agree with him, he did the US a favour by showing the diversity of opinion in your country and demonstrating free speech. I hope people will look into what he meant by a fictitious President and discover the way the country is run - by self-interest groups from the oil industry (and much much more). Of course, the UK isn't a perfect example of democracy (where is?) but I'm certainly glad we have a relatively free press and less obvious corruption in government. Again, I know it's heading the wrong way and the evidence is there - if you make the effort to look for it. I guess that's part of the problem, I get the impression that Americans aren't encouraged to see what is going on in the rest of the world. There's enough fear in the US without starting to look at how much more there is elsewhere - especially when so many people seem to hate you. Education is the key. Americans need to know what's going on and those outside the country need to be shown the good *selfless* things that America does too. Best wishes. Posted by: Liam, on March 25, 2003 08:17 AM



Here's what happens to peaceful, unarmed protesters. This bulldozer operator advanced until the treads were on top of her, and then backed up without raising the blade. So he runs over her twice with the blade DOWN, which he need not have done. It was a deliberate killing--murder, in other words. Posted by: Moiraine, http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=1&id=2984 on March 25, 2003 10:02 AM



Michael Moore - I want your babies and I don't even mind if they're a bit plump Posted by: Dot, on March 25, 2003 10:09 AM



I would like to point out that I am not pro-saddam. I am, however, anti-war. Not war on a whole.. but this one. Only because it was unjustified. Saying "Saddam is evil." Or "Saddam is wrong" is merely a cop out to the truth. To call someone evil means that they are evil because they don't believe the same as you do. And since when is going in an bombing someone just becausde they exist ok? Is that American? To burn the American flag in Iraq is none of our business. If they were doing it here, then yes... THAT would be our business. But who are we to say they are wrong for standing up for their beliefs? This whole war is for Dubya to prove to his daddy that he does, in fact, have a penis. That's all there is to it. His actions are NOT justified. Had Saddam made an active attempt to damage U.S. structure, then it would have been justified. He id not. As for the claim that people in Hollywood know nothing of the matter, I would like to say that I am an actor and you would be surprised to find how much world study actors must endure. How much actual research they must endure. In fact, in university setting, they have to study English, History, Period architecture, period clothing, customs (sociaology) and amny other world aspects almost as much as each of those majors. It sounds as though the ignorance lies not with the actors, but with those who bash their intelligence. That's all I really have to say on the matter. Posted by: Craeft, on March 25, 2003 12:35 PM



As an ammendum to my previous post, We need to get Bush out of office before all of our allies stand directly against us. Because Bush won't stop until we are all dead. I have never seen any one president upset so many allies with one decision. He has a talent for stupidity, I give him that. Posted by: Craeft, on March 25, 2003 12:47 PM



I love Mike Moore, but I sure hope our troops didn't hear his acceptance speech at the Oscars. These men and woman are eating sand, fighting and DYING for our country. They should be supported and honored no matter what one's personal feelings are. Posted by: SLM, on March 25, 2003 12:59 PM



They signed up for it. They knew what to expect... don't give me that "Our troops..." crap. When you join the service, you expect war. And I respect them GREATLY for doing it... but nonetheless, don't pull a military guilt trip. That's so cliché in war time. They are doing their job. And a damn good job. Michael Moore is not anti-troops... Unless you are reading a different article and heard a different speech than me. Posted by: Craeft, on March 25, 2003 01:20 PM



Didn't like it when Redgrave made her political comments at the 19XX awards, even though she had a point...didn't like it, wasn't the place....didn't like it when Maria Tallfeather, or whatever her name was, accepted the award for Brando (and I'm part Chickasaw Indian, and I STILL didn't like it), and I surely didn't like it when Moore made his comments the other night. I voted for Gore, I don't care for Bush, and I know what happened in FL, but I still don't want to see it during the OSCARS, get it? I didn't tune in to hear his obviously pig-headed, one-sided foaming-at-the-mouth fanatical views. If I want to hear ill-informed, highly personal and embarrassingly opinionated BS like that, I can buy his crappy books. Posted by: Annie, http://www.norcalblog.com on March 25, 2003 01:45 PM



Michael Moore is an Assclown.. good director but an assclown.. As mentioned earlier, he should've stayed away from projecting his political views in the Oscars. He wasn't getting an interview from CNN, so why waste his breath to taint his fame. As for Bush, yes, theres something beyond his known motives for War.. we just dont know it.. maybe we'll find out, maybe we wont. No one can know for sure. The media is undependable these days.. most stations are biased. At the moment i'm still sitting on the fence.. atleast i know i'm not the only one. Posted by: MG, on March 25, 2003 02:47 PM



Craeft, please let us know what you have done done for your country lately? They are "our troops" and I'm very glad they are here for us. And whether they knew what they were getting into or not is not the issue. They deserve our respect. Posted by: Smorris, on March 25, 2003 03:38 PM



In order to further the debate, I wish more Americans would read about their own history. Read about Howard Zinn: A People’s History of the United States; read some Chomsky and his take on American involvement in Vietnam, Chile, Nicaragua, etc. Why is it that, in a free-speech democratic nation, name-calling is the first thing that happens when someone doesn’t agree with you? Why call Michael Moore fat? Why call French people cheese-eating monkeys? Have some real debates, please. Eric from Montreal Posted by: Eric Serre, on March 25, 2003 04:10 PM



Michael Moore should have not won best documentary, not because he's an "ass clown" but because Bowling for Columbine isn't a documentary! A lot of the film was staged or edited to imply certain themes/ideas. That is not a documentary. One thing the left never understands is that most conservatives will investagate claims they make. Go to http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html. You can deny the facts. Also, Moore can say what he wants but he isn't dissenting. Please, true dissent is when one is in danger for speaking out. When one could killed/ tortured/ imprisoned when speaking his/her mind. All he's doing is expressing himself in a country that values freedom of speech. He isn't a hero. He isn't for the small little blue collar union people. Now this all comes from a guy who loved Moore after "Roger and Me." I was a liberal/socialist. But I did something the left always tell us. I began to investigate and read about certain issues so I can be more informed. Yet the more I did read the more I became disillusioned. I found that right thinkers tended to use more true facts for their arguement. The left tend to use vague facts and figures and try to connect it to their ideas. Much like moore. So after awhile I saw the "truth" Needless to say I crossed over and am right of center. Posted by: , on March 25, 2003 06:18 PM



Having read the comments posted to date, I'd like to offer my opinion as a Palm Beach County voter and news junkie....To those of you who think that Dubya won the election fair and square, you are wrong. Even the head of the Palm Beach County Republican Party got on a local talk show afterwards and said "no", when he was asked the question if he thought George won fair and square. That is aside from the fact that the county used an illegal ballot (I still have my sample copy that clearly shows a punch to the left for Al Gore, when Florida law clearly states that the punch must be to the right, a fact that I'm sure Dubya's lawyers would have brought up had their man had his punch circle in the wrong spot and had lost votes as a result)...As a result of this illegality, there were large blocks of elderly Jewish voters casting their ballots for Pat Buchanan, which they stated was clearly not their intent. There should have been a re-vote at a minimum, not a re-count of votes that had been mis-cast. Trust me, I am not a liberal Democrat...I've voted Republican nearly all my life, but no one in their right mind could have voted for George W. had they studied his history. The mess that the country is in today is no surprise to those who have studied this man's past. Those in Hollywood know that Michael Moore is a man who pursues the truth, and he spoke the truth Sunday night. Posted by: Independent Thinker, on March 25, 2003 10:13 PM



Here's my take on Mr. Moore. While I thoroughly enjoy his documentaries (creative editing and sketchy details on the economics of Flint, MI aside), I always felt uncomfortable with the way he dealt with people he encountered in his camera ambushes. I'm not talking about Charlton "NRA" Heston--Moore himself is a card-carrying NRA member. What I felt was hypocritical was the way he dealt with the security guards and receptionists who greeted him in the lobbies of corporate offices. Moore speaks so highly of the plight of the American worker, yet he constantly shoves past, humiliates, and condescends to average working schmoes he claims to represent. It seems as if Moore's service to the working class extends only to those he can't manipulate for his own purposes. I'm really not excited by this war, but Moore and other celebrities' opinions mean precious little when they are the embodiment of everything the rest of the world hates about America: excess, overpayment, and luxury. Unless every peacenik at this year's Oscars plans on donating their free Academy gift bags to the cause they so vehemently support, their comments mean nothing. Posted by: RLM, on March 26, 2003 12:36 AM



Read http://www.moorewatch.com/comments.php?id=227_0_1_0_C I dare you. Posted by: Todd, http://www.moorewatch.com/comments.php?id=227_0_1_0_C on March 26, 2003 12:42 AM



And read this: http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/10/981028-in.htm Again, I dare you. Posted by: Todd, http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/10/981028-in.htm on March 26, 2003 01:53 AM



And finally, a little history lesson about Hussein: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4637/terr37a.html I can't believe that after reading these pages, you could stand having Saddam in power even one more day. The US is the savior of the Iraqis (and perhaps the civilized world)! Thank God Bush is willing to make the difficult call. Posted by: Todd, http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4637/terr37a.html on March 26, 2003 01:56 AM



We all realize Moore had the right to say what he said at the oscars, whether you agreed with him or not. I like a lot of what Michael Moore has to say, but i think it's important not to assume that everything he says is the truth. Just like we would assume that Bush is not always truthful. Bush may be a fictitious president, but the war sure as hell isn't fiction. Unfortunatley it's very real. Michael Moore used to write for Mother's Magazine, a "radical" left wing publication in California, so i don't think he's a mediator like he sometimes portrays himself. However, he is creating debate, and it seems that is what the world needs right now. Posted by: Joe E, on March 26, 2003 03:24 AM



I'd like to respond to the anonymous writer above who had a problem with Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine 'not being a documentary'. I believe it is and have checked out http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html on your advice to see why you think it isn't. There is nothing unusual about his style of documentary film-making, we see it all the time in the UK. Sure, he's trying to make a point and it's edited as such but unless you're filming a documentary about sea life or something, it's going to be making a point if it wants to grab people's attention. However, I welcome your questioning approach. It certainly shows a healthy debate is starting. Maybe you need to question whether the news you watch every day on TV is 'news'. Or is it someone's biased opinion. Perhaps those who control the networks, who control much of the power in your country. I think I would be more concerned about this than one person who makes a stand at the Oscars. Hmmm, perhaps it's because Moore is a dissenter and a troublemaker, perhaps even a left-winger. Yes, he is. And he doesn't need to be endangering his life to be so - unless the English Dictionary in your country has a different definition to ours! At any rate, he didn't have to make any comments about the war, he could have stayed quiet and grateful. Instead he risked making a fool of himself (maybe he did in delivery) and WAS a dissenting voice at the ceremony. Good on him, you are lucky to have him as an American. Posted by: Liam, on March 26, 2003 05:29 AM



First, I would like to point out that I said I give the troops my respect. I respect them greatly. As for what I do for my country.. yet another cliché question. Granted, I don't go overseas and fight pointless wars. Granted, I don't serve on the police force. So what. I am wrong for choosing a different career path? What kind of question is that? And Todd, as for your etthnocentric arrogance about whether Saddam should or shouldn't serve another day.... grow up. It is not our say. And to say that we are the saviours of the Iraqis shows your arrogance and incredibly ridiculous outlook on America. We are being bullies. That's all this "war" is. We are only the saviours of the Iraqis because some egocentric assclown said we were. How about if we stop invading other peoples' cultures and try to work on our own? Or here's another idea... stop trying to save everyone else, and save Jason, one of the thousands of homeless people in America. Or those in America with serious financial distress. Or the children here in America that have no place to live. How about trying to save them first? Don't give me this arrogant, "We are the saviours..." bull. We are not the saviours. We are the playground bully. Wake up and deal with it. Posted by: Craeft, on March 26, 2003 05:20 PM



I just read in today's newspaper that Bush has ordered all French food banned from Air Force One -- this in keeping with the racist, hate-fuelled nastiness spreading all over the Excited States against anything that's, well, not American. Land of the free -- my ass. In the 1940s, the bogeyman was the Japanese and the Communist. Nowadays, it's the Arabs, the Canadians, the French, the Germans -- heck, have I left anyone out? Good grief. Get over yourselves, Americans. You're not the only ones occupying space on this planet. Gotta run. Time to have a café au lait and a French baguette. Bush doesn't know what he's missing. Then again, this is a guy who thinks a protractor is somebody who's in favour of farm machinery. Posted by: Frederic, on March 27, 2003 05:45 PM



if we do nothing, we are accused of being isolationists and not using our influence for good in the world. if we do anything, we are accused of throwing our weight around. i'm not against michael moore's right to speak out--it is important that he continue to do so. but i don't think he needs the oscar platform as his bully pulpit. it makes his voice appear to be shrill, especially when he later says " i think i showed america in a good light". it makes his speech appear to be nothing more than a self serving moment. obviously, no one is afraid to speak out against the war here. just look at the protests in every city around the nation. his stance doesn't make him a hero, anymore than bush's stance makes him one. by the way, as far as ficticious elections go, we had one back in 1960, remember? entire graveyards were literally heading to the polls to vote for jfk! who knew he was so popular among the legions of the dead? lol Posted by: angus, on March 29, 2003 03:19 AM



I wish that the ORIGINAL "Axis of Evil" had won the last World War, then all the whining Canucks, Frogs, Russkies, etc., would simply not exist today. Period. And good riddance to you all... Posted by: ManInTheHighCastle, on April 7, 2003 10:16 PM



Michael Moore speaks truth, just not in a very comprehensible way when he is nervous from JUST WINNING A FUCKING OSCAR in front of a HALF A BILLION PEOPLE. Give him a break. He is a good man, and Bush deserves the tongue lashing. And I think celebrities have as much right to comment as anyone else. Bring it on, Dixie Chicks. Posted by: SimonTemplar, http://www.xanga.com/simontemplar on April 10, 2003 12:51 AM



on the contrary, "saint", moore was very comprehensible, he just had no business saying it there. nervous?? boo hoo. he was crafting that little diatribe all day. "america is against this war, mr. bush." what poll is he reading? yeah, celebrities have the right, they just lack the brains. Posted by: duffs, on April 11, 2003 01:34 AM